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Then why did you listen to the campaign conference and why are YOU following and commenting on this issue.
Great. He's done his mea culpa.
Can we get back to his golf game?
Leave his personal life be. It is really none of our business anyway.
There is no such thing as a sliding scale of sin, so I don't get the severe harshness from some.
My guess is, if many people had their every move scrutinized by people just like themselves, they would fly themselves in to a building in lieu of being lynched and hanged by the mob.
How do you "perfect" people do it? Share so the rest of the world can be "enlightened" by your holiness.
Tiger is a golf pro, not Jesus Christ. For those of you who say he wasn't sincere in his apology, please give me your crystal ball. I'd like to play the lottery.
I could care less that Tiger apologized. He is an example of an arrogant man who feels the rules are for someone else. It is all "about him." The control he had over this "press interview" is another example of this behavior. I don't believe he has learned anything yet. (Much like our President!) The only thing he should be concentrating right now is salvaging his relationship with his wife and children.
If his wife had not caught him, he would be in Tucson right now banging a tounament hostess.
I being a man really don't think that it's anybodys business what he does. Being a celebrity he no doubt has many solicitations from women. Nobody is perfect therefore nobody should expect perfection. The statement Jesus made immediatily comes to mind:you who are without sin throw the first stione. So what if he has mistresses? If any of you think you are better than Tiger Woods you should seek counseling. The problem isn't Tiger Woods, it's you. Who do you profess to be?
Sorry I just did not get a feeling that he even thinks he did something wrong. Just saying I am sorry does nothing for me. I think he is just sorry he got caught.
I was very disappointed by this 'ask no questions, sterile, rigid, staged apology'.
I for one don't think he needs to say he is sorry to us, he needs to apologies to his family, its none of our business. i do think he is sorry, but he needs to prove to his wife not use.
All of you whining "Why can't we just get back to golf?!"
Why the hell are you commenting on the article, then? All you're doing it perpetuating the situation.... Go play golf and forget about it.
Mike Boyd - "I being a man really don't think that it's anybodys business what he does. Being a celebrity he no doubt has many solicitations from women. Nobody is perfect therefore nobody should expect perfection. The statement Jesus made immediately comes to mind:you who are without sin throw the first stione. So what if he has mistresses? If any of you think you are better than Tiger Woods you should seek counseling. The problem isn't Tiger Woods, it's you. Who do you profess to be?"
What does you being a man have to do with anything on this matter. And... based on your comments I question your manhood since being a true man takes more than having a check mark beside "M" on your driver's license under gender; and thinking it is OK to cheat on your wife and break vows you made to God. Tiger being weak and yielding to temptation with a women would be one thing, but for him to intentionally plan to have unprotected sex with MANY different women, and then go home to bed with his wife and put her life at risk is more than a mistake or yielding to weakness. That was intentional misconduct and arrogance. Let me see if I can help you understand the definition of a mistake versus intent to go out of the way to do wrong. When you drop a glass of milk that is a mistake. But when you go around breaking into all of your neighbors houses, opening their fridges and intentionally pour out their gallons of milk on the floor... that would be intentional, unforgivable action of an arrogant person thinking that they play by different rules that normal citizens. But those actions would not be classified as a mistake. What Tiger did was not spilling a glass of milk by yielding to temptation with a women or two. He intentionally preplanned and traveled to meet many women with intent to have sex, so in other words he premeditated before going into his neighbors houses and poured out their milk thinking he was above the law or that he would not get caught.
Now he is the one whose photo is on milk cartons with everyone wondering where Tiger is since he is now missing from golf. If you want to quote the Bible then I think that the appropriate quote is from Numbers 32:22-23 "Be guiltless before the LORD, and before Israel; and this land shall be your possession before the LORD. But if ye will not do so, behold, ye have sinned against the LORD: and be sure your sin will find you out." Tiger intentionally preplanned and went out of his way to break a vow that he made to God that he would be faithful to his wife. This was not spur of the moment weakness where he gave in to temptation. He was not guiltless before the Lord, and the whole world found out his sin. It will cost him lose of fans, money from sponsors, respect by his colleagues, and most likely may cost him his wife and unlimited relationship with his children.
And if it were just a weak moment of sin, and if Tiger truly repented of his sin, then his apology would have been sincere and would have come from his heart;instead of a pre-written script. He thinks that he can come out with a mop and clean up the milk in the house that he was caught pouring on the floor and that everything will be OK. But since his pouring the milk was pre-planned and intentional, he will have to compensate and pay for the damages. That is what Tiger will have to do for his fans and it won't happen in a 13 minute controlled media setup that he has planned out and scripted. Tiger is finding out for the first time a lesson where his hundreds of millions $ will not buy him out of this situation. It will ultimately cost him 100s of millions, but that will be to his wife, lost wages from missed golf tournaments, and sponsorships.
Tiger is a heartless cheater without any consideration for others (especially his wife, children, fans, or the game of golf that has given him everything that he has) He cheated on his wife & he cheated in his apology to us when he came out reading from a cheat-sheet! It makes a person wonder how many times he has cheated at golf when nobody was looking. He has lost all credibility. Oh yea... another Bible verse pertaining to Tiger's intentional misconduct: Hosea 10:12 - "Sow to yourselves in righteousness, reap in mercy; break up your fallow ground: for it is time to seek the LORD, till he come and rain righteousness upon you." Or another good old fashion common sense saying is that 'you shall reap what ye sow". Tiger now has to pay the piper for his actions. He did not sow himself in righteousness, now he is not reaping mercy of the majority of his fans, sponsors or wife. That is except for you Mike ... because you are a self proclaimed man who understands that it is OK that Tiger lied and cheated... because he is a man.
I'm not even going to try address the ridiculous statement you made about his actions being OK because he is a celebrity who is frequently approached with beautiful women. Based on all of the women's statements that I have read, it was him approaching them because he was a celebrity, not the other way around. So Mike base on you being a man and understanding Tiger's actions, I understand now why the fans use to yell for Tiger on the golf course... "YOUR"RE THE MAN"!
Who were the two women sitting on either side of Tiger's mother.
Hey Kathdunkin, lighten up! I'm an idiot? I just have a sense of humor, you shouldn't be so jealous! I'm sure you have good qualities, too - like maybe you are nice........sometimes!!
I thought Melanie was funny, too. Jeez, don't people recognize sarcasm when they hear it . Lighten up, Kathdunkin, don't take everything so literally.
Yeah Melanie was just being funny. We all know they're way further down the list than 17 and 18. ;)
I vote for Melanie. As for the 'personal life' defense his supporters take, I don't agree. He chose his vocation, granted with a push from his father. He makes most of his money from his celebrity but away from the links. I guess I am still supposed to buy Nikes even though I know Tiger is a scum bag. Are golfers, or anyone else, really supposed to be Billionaires? Are they really that much better than the rest of us? Really?
A man flew a plane into a huge office building in Texas yesterday. And was that the news story of the day today? What we get is another unwanted earful of another philandering athlete who thinks his talent entitles him to do as he pleases, mowing down his family in the process. He should just go away. And I hope his poor lovely wife takes the kids and everything she can get.
It happened to me. But, apparently, I'm one of the few women who can move on. I understand human frailties. I know I'm not perfect either, and I hope people forgive me when I apologize. Americans, and especially Christians, are extremely judgmental and unforgiving. He felt entitled (wonder why), and now he realizes the consequences. That's what consequences are for. We all need to understand how important it is to overcome. We all need forgiveness, and those who don't accept it are doomed to not be forgiven as well.
I'm curious, did he break any laws? Because if he didn't, what consequences should he be dealing with, other than private ones with his family? We talk about his sense of entitlement, how dare people feel entitled to hear from him. Its none of our business.
Thomas,
You'd be perfectly right if he was not a public figure frequently looked upon as a role model. Apologies are warranted because of the influence his persona has had on, say, his mentoring work with children. I also think that a public apology was considered a requirement of his therapy, given the circumstances.
Even a non-public person in the same circumstances has people they should apologize to because the affect their behavior has had.
Not only that, he had put up this appearance of being this 'average boring' person who was squeaky clean.
Nuh uh, not so much eh?
No, he didn't "owe" anyone other than his wife and children a sincere apology but if he wants to salvage what's left of his public image, this was a necessary apology.
No, it did not happen to me. But there are more important things in this world to concern us than who the golfer is cheating with this week. Or when he's going to decide to honor the game of golf again with his illustrious presence. His talent is surpassed only by his arrogance.
i agree with sac1, carolanne1210, u do sound bitter, and he is not the only one that has cheated on his wife, he just happened to be an famous golfer and that is what put hiim out there, so i don't think he ows us anything, once he is back playing golf and wins then everyone will forgive him, that is just the way people are.
Americans, and especially Christians, are extremely judgmental and unforgiving.
Those aren't Christians. They may claim to be, but it's like saying you're a vegetarian but still eat steak. Why you gotta throw that in there? I forgive you.
You're right, cruzer, he doesn't owe us anything. That's what I've been saying all along. What he did was a private matter between him, his wife and the 18-and-counting playmates. His apology should be to his wife, and he should make it up to his family. What I am complaining about is that we have to see it every time we pick up a newspaper or turn on the news. It's none of our business, and I'm just tired of him-and the others who came before him, whether it be women or steroids, acting like they are entitled to do what they did, and are not sorry they did it, only sorry they were caught.
I think one of the reasons this has gotten so much attention is because Tiger has always had the 'goodie goodie' (for lack of a better term) image. He plays golfer, a very calm and sedated sport and sits at the top. Being able to find some chinks in his armor would ignite a feeding frenzy for the media, which it has.
Compare this to say... Kobe Bryant who plays basketball, a much more agressive sport where egos are a lot bigger. His whole scandal which, correct me if I'm wrong, ended up with a $5M apology ring blew over in an instant compared to Tiger's. I totally forgot about it until this whole thing with Tiger came about.
I believe that's why this has exploded so much. Tiger has been the poster boy for golf and now that he has been brought to his knees, the media is taking this very rare opportunity to go in for the kill.
@Thomas,
Yes he broke a law, though wasn't charged. Driving under the influence, namely sleeping medication, hence the pinball game with his auto.
The man couldn't even stay awake after they pulled him from the vehicle, so thank the tree (and fire hydrant) for being there to stop him, else he likely could have injured or killed a human or two. Then this would have been an entirely different story.
But in his deffense, he really wasn't treated much differently than most dui offenders in this state (Florida). Oh sure, the cops arrest one now and then, but otherwise I see dui and open bottles almost daily, ussually at the afternoon rush hour. Dui is the official state motorsport I think.
Part of the 12 steps of recovery for any addictive behavior. Tiger gets an "A".
Is step "A" getting laid by a bunch of women while your married???
I don't think holding a tightly controlled press conference and reading from a prepared speech is anywhere in the 12 steps to recovery. Apologies are personal and private - this was a show.
I think every thinng he said was a bunch of nonsense. he claimed that his religion was showing him the way. To bad he couldn't even repeat what his religion says without reading it off his paper first. He is doing this for his image not because he is sorry. I would be kissing major behind to if I was loosing millions of dollars worth of sponsors.
He has plenty of money for many lifetimes even if he did not get any more sponsorships. I doubt he will miss any of the money from sponsors.
And more nonsensical judgments. Who cares if he read it? He wanted to get it right!
While the apology will help Mr. Woods and his family recover from their personal demons, the fact is that he does not "owe" "us" a public apology. While what he did was wrong, it was not illegal. For the news organization that boycotted the news conference, shame on you. If Mr. Woods wanted to give a public apology, that is not really necessary or required, then who are you to demand that the press conference be open to ALL media and that you get your questions answered. Grow up and get a life.
Who said he owed the public an apology? None of us really care if he apologizes to the "fans" or not! Tiger feels it is necessary for his image to "apologize" - he must be losing money, not counting the millions he owes his family for his "transgressions." I don't think he needs to apologize, I'm not married to him, but doesn't someone 0usually say that he/she is sorry when they lie - especially to all the people who made you famous and bought your Buicks, Nike, and Gatorade?
"Grow up and get a life" seems a bit harsh, maybe you are taking this way too serious! I don't think the public, media, or the fans demanded a press conference or an apology from Tiger Woods this was his idea. Perhaps, since he is not particpating in the Accenture Gold Tournament this weekend, he needed to conjure up his own media. If he wanted to help his family, he should've thought about that 18 mistresses ago, a press conference 80 something days later, how does that help his family? If he really wanted to help his family, why is he holding a press conference, why didn't he just hold a family meeting?
I think it's very "stand-up" for him to get up there and clear his wife's name. Not that I think anyone was faulting her "reaction" ;) I agree it's not our business, and he didn't owe "us" anything, but if he did it to make himeself feel better out of guilt/embarressment good for him I think it takes balls to step off your high horse (thats right, #1 in the world!! billions of $$! hehe) and make an apology I think it shows a step back to the humility he once had like he suggested.
You see movies all the time about rich people actin stupid and gettin busted down to human level again and come out better for it. sometimes it just has to happen. Yea its just a movie but some like that are based on true stories.. Of course not all stories like that in REAL life have happy endings.. and I wish him luck, hopefully he can save his family..
well for those who feel sorry for all those mistresses, don't they knew what they were getting into, i have no feeling for those type of women they got what they deserve, nothing!!!! heck all they got was 15 mins of fame. but the media is the one that is stirring the pot on this subject, there are more import things in life, then tiger woods.
itsjustmyopinion - Telling the media to grow up, you got to be kidding - just another aspect Tiger can't control so he holds a "closed conference" - why should Tiger get any special privileges? Why should the press be censored by Tiger? If he is going to use the media then he should have to face the media.
Jess - Do you really think he was clearing his wifes name or do you think that was a clause in the new pre-nup? Saturday Night Live nailed this issue - I bet she was chasing his butt with 9 iron and only felt guilty after he crashed - No domestic violence -puh leez - Tiger got his butt kicked and he deserved it.
Tiger is human. His statement has proven to me he is genuine and sincere. What more, after all, is more important than admitting our transgressions to the world, which he now has done. Good luck, Tiger.I, for one believe in you still!
seriously, you bought that garbage? He is such a fake and the whole thing was scripted and staged. Take the blinders off please
sondramo - i also bought into that, i do thing he is sincere, get off your high horse and come down to earth!!
I'm with sondramo on this one - a limited press conference, reading from a prepared speech - that proves nothing other than Tiger can read.
He owes me nothing, but I didn't want anything from him before this. I believe in his skills as a golfer but beyond that...nah!
i did not want or ask for an apology from that man he forced it on everyone with his press confrence. He should get an oscar for that one. I object to selling youself to the american people as a family man and all around good guy when in reality he is amoral. I am not on a high horse just a straight talker. if he wanted that lifestyle he should not have gotten married and he should not have tried to be someone he is not.
I do believe that his apology helped his image. I saw the sincere and heartfelt apology and I do pray that he gets his life together. It shows that just because you are rich that you still have to follow the same rules that ordinary people have to follow and live by. I pray for his entire family and hope that he comes back to his golfing career.
If it was so heartfelt, why is he apologizing 3 months later? No one will ever forget seeing a new woman claiming to be his mistress every day on the news in December! His image will never be the same!
Yah, and we've all been damaged and hurt and that's why we're sore at him, right? I don't understand you people. It must be great to live on Mt. Olympus. You all look down on the rest of us from such a lofty height.
I like how people are condescending to those of us who are not a fan of Tiger's actions and we are labeled "judgemnental," "bitter," or my favorite as John-327741 refers to us now as "olympic gods!" Why are you judging us? Why don't you tell me John "How is the view from Mt. Olympus because I wouldn't know, but thanks for looking down on us!" I mean, I thought we all had the right to our opinions! I'm not going to call you names or slur you just because you don't agree with me, but I guess it makes you feel better if you do!
Yay Melanie!
What would people be saying if a married woman and mother had been caught having affairs with 16 men? There wouldn't be enough nasty words in the English language to describe such behavior.
That was "heartfelt"...? It didn't look to me like that was his heart that he was holding in his hands... it looked to me to be a cheat-sheet piece of paper with prescripted BS that he hoped we would buy. And obviously some swallowed it hook, line and sinker. If he had been sincere then he would not have need to read his apology, it would have come out automatically from the heart. I would have understood it he had some notes that he occasionally glanced at, but he read his entire so called apology to ensure that he said everything just like his mother and paid PR counsel scripted. His apology was not his.... it was his agent's apology for Tiger so that they could stop the bleeding with lose of money from sponsors and declining fan base! It is all about his public image and the money that is impacted by his image. Tiger could care less what me or you think about his intentional misconduct, except that it is costing him money. Money is what he truly cares about and that is reflected in his prenup with his wife that he planned all along to cheat on. "SHOW ME THE MONEY"...!!!
This is going to affect his golf game. He won't be able to play 18 holes anymore.
Did you mean he wont be able to play with 18 "WHORES" anymore or did you actually mean "HOLES"?
What happened is that the #1 golfer in the world just lost millions by beating himself on a penalty for playing the wrong hole(s).
Despite not taking questions he still stood before everyone, even the Tiger haters watching on TV, and admitted his transgressions and problems. Can anyone else think of another situation where someone of his stature (within his chosen field) has ever done the same when they got caught?
Mel Gibson?
Ted Haggard?
Brad Pitt?
Can you think of any others who have done the apology so publicly?
Give him the just amount of credit for his actions both good and bad.
Charlie Sheen sat in a witness box in court to apoligize, opps I meant brag about his transgressions.
leave the man alone, those that crying are just jealous he didnt give it to them. people make mistakes, and its no one fault and they are adults. leave the hell alone. if he wants so new stuff and he can get it leave the man alone. it not your business anyway, sounds like those that wont leave tiger alone maybe they want a big one.hahahahahahaha, eat on that for a while!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Once is a mistake!!!!!! I am not jealous I am outraged that he was supposed to be this big family man and this great role model when the whole time he was a fake. He made up that image not us we may have bought it for awhile but all the whores aaare out of the bag.
Troops are dying overseas and this is what the major networks choose to air...REALLY?!? Tiger (Cheetah should be his new nickname) and his sponsors/life/cheating etc. are so important they interrupted broadcasting for this....is he more important than the president now?! He really is truly "sorry". Way to go NBC...keep up with whats important!
Take another look----it was not only NBC-it was every major news network, ABC,CBS, cable, and on and on.
Once again, all the people out there commenting negatively-because their opinion will rock and change the world,.....as it says in the big book, "he/she who is without sin....cast the first stone" and the Pres has what to do with this??????
I wish someone would get rid of our "right to know"-it is not our right and none of our business.
Get on with our own lives, as though it would never be on broadcast tv or the internet.
Most people are ignorant about addiction and this includes sex addiction. It is a diease that controls a person. He knew what he was doing was wrong but could not control his impulses. This is the power of addiction. It happens to millions of people regarding alcohol, drugs, food, shopping and yes...even sex. Tiger has a problem and his dedication to returning to treatment and not thinking about golf is a good sign. Treatment takes more than 45 days but months or even years with a total attitude change and committment to behavioral changes necessary for life-long success. I think at this point the 45 days of treatment "opened his eyes" to the problem he has but that months of therapy is still needed. Hopefully, he is on the right path and people out there should step back and try to understand the "big picture" of addiction and learn more about it before talking nonsense about foolish temptation and total selfishness that people say Tiger showed. He did those things...YES...but the disease was the controlling factor. Wise up people and read about addiction..might do you some good in your own lives!!
Maybe Tiger should hire you as his publicist! I am not picking on you, Mr. Scott. And you are right, indeed sexual addition is a mental illness. But I'm not sure if that is the mental illness Tiger has. It is not uncommon for people who suffer from sexual addiction to "hook-up" with many, random people with no intimate need to continuously carry on emotional relationships with them (ie. carrying on affairs that began before he was even married.) Why didn't he just run around and f@ck everyone and stay single. But the fact that he told these women that "you are the best," "we have a lifetime of this," "you mean so much to me," - that's not just a random wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am-Bunny Ranch in Vegas!
But you bring up a great point, it's always something or somebody else's fault. "It's not my fault I took drugs, alcoholism is a disease." "It's not my fault I gambled away all of my kids' college funds - gambling is a disease." No, my friend cancer is a disease! To take that drug, to walk into that casino, (or gamble online) is a choice! The person with brain cancer did not "make a choice" to have that disease. "It's not my fault I drowned all of my kids in the bath tub, I was crazy!" "I heard the Beatles song, "Helter Skeltor and it told me to form a cult and kill people!" Gimme a break!! "It's the Republicans fault." "It's the democrats fault!" "It's Obama's fault!" "It was Bush's fault!" I just wish people would stop blaming others or inventing psychological labels for their mistakes!
I hope I didn't offend anyone with my posting, and if I did, the devil made me do it!!
How do you know he's not using addiction as an excuse? Because a professioal athlete had sex with 17 different woman that makes makes him an addict? I don't think so, he's going to therapy to repair his image and marriage not because he's addicted
I don't feel sorry for him . He should worry about his family more than Golf or his image. I feel that he is being mislead. Family 1st familt 2nd and last family 3rd.
Is it our business? Great quote in The American President, when AJ says, "With all due respect, sir, the American people have a funny way of deciding on their own what is and what is not their business."
There is an unwritten rule about celebrities when there image does not match their actions. Typically, it involves some kind of apology. For Tiger, a very very private man, that just does seem to be in the cards for him. Should he apologize? Yes. Professional athletes make their living off the backs of hard working fans. Part of what they are buying is not just the entertainment of watching Tiger play golf, but it is the persona as well. He did apologize, but who was he apologizing to? It was not his wife, kids, friends...etc. He did not have to go on national tv to do that. He is trying to apologize to the fans and sponsors and all the people who helped put that $100 billion in his pocket. I think he failed miserably.
I think he needed to do the public apology if for no other reason than to try to keep the paparazzi away from his wife and kids. It's a family problem. The rest of us don't need to know. He owes us nothing. Let's not forget he didn't break any laws and he's not an elected figure. He's a golfer - his performance on the course is public, but, his personal life should be personal. Whether they work it out or not it's none of our business.
I bet Dori7 is white
I am white actually...not sure what that has to do with anything...I just think that interrupting the major networks should be reserved for news that really matters and affects our lives...not because Tiger is sorry for getting caught...the networks don't even interrupt broadcasting for the president most of the time...I can see ESPN covering it live, but not the other networks.
Then you don't know what "news" actually is -- it's about what people are interested in. Check the ratings and see how many people tuned in. That's news.
same DA's that watch entertainment tonight and other type programs.
It's all about ratings, not necessarily news worth(y,
The opinion poll needs to be "who really cares"
Him, his (corporate speak) "issues" , "challenges" , rehab's are personal, why stage a news conference, pool camera coverage, PGA home, no questions?
ATT, Accenture got it right.
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IT'S NONE OF OUR BUSINESS PEOPLE!! Only his family deserve answers and apologies. Fans & reporters deserve nothing. Move on already!