How I long for a return of the best rivalry in the NFL: Browns - Steelers
As much as I dislike the Browns, I want to see the Browns return to respectabilty for their deserving and suffering fans. That rivalry was the best before Modell "pulled trhe rug out of Cleveland". Go Pittsburgh Go Cleveland
jz-2 makes the best case for the Packers-Bears rivalry. And HGH-GTH's post is hilarious. But what makes the rivalry so wonderful, in adddition to the points jz-2 made, is that it's all based on a good-natured, pretend hatred. I don't know about Bears fans, but as a lifelong Packer fan (I'm 59) I don't recall ever hearing much genuine animosity towards the Bears at all. In fact, most Packer fans I know, including my mother, are secret Bears fans; if the Packers are out of the playoffs, most Packer fans will root for the Bears, myself included.
HGH-GTH: About that failed marriage...I feel your pain. I've been married to a Cowboy fan here in El Paso for 17 miserable years now. I like the town though. Good-luck to you guys this year.
I'm a Steeler fan but how I miss the days when the Browns could come in to town and turn our season on it's head. I love to hate the Browns but lately I just feel sorry for what the Browns are (like our Pirates) and what our two towns are missing.
I don't know what is wrong with the Browns but I would like nothing better than have them start kicking butt again. Maybe the Mighty Quinn can help and they'll all be singing the Brady Bunch theme in the DogPound! Then I can hate those dirty rotten %$#^#@*%$ Browns again!
The Bears fans root for Packers fans if their out of it. The Packers fans root for Bears fans if their out of it. How the hell is this the best rivalry in football? If the Cowboys make the playoffs, Redskins fans will be screaming and cheering so hard against them, its like the Cowboys are playing the Skins, and vice versa. As a true Cowboy fan, you should know that. I smell a poser...
No one else has yet to make a strong case with facts that would say the Redskins Cowboys are not the best rivalry. Cmon guys, at least try some research for your arguments. Best teams who play eachother like Ravens-Steelers is not an good argument just because its a blood bath. I will say again, the entire Washington DC area, Virginia, parts of the Carolinas (before the Panthers mind you) are die hard Skins fans and hate the Cowboys fans more than anything. It is the same in Dallas and all over Texas in reverse. And with a massive fan base (the largest 2 in professional football mind you) that happen to hate eachother and have hated eachother for 70 years, cmon, no question. Plus, as i said before, both teams actually WIN Super Bowls, 7 total, so almost every other argument is worthless... Now, again, I dare any of you so called true fans to come up with a real argument against my claim of Skins Cowboys best of all time.
to respond the question on the records Pittsburgh-Ravens....the record since it inception in 1996...is 17-10 in the steelers favor..at pittsburgh the recrods is 10-4; at Baltimore the record is 7-6...the Ravens beat the steelers twice in 2006 and once in 2007....thus no 5 game winning streak....
Any fan older than forty knows that the Ravens are the "real" Browns and that the "turnpike" rivalry between the Steelers and Browns was legendary. Jim Brown and the Steelers defenses pummelled each other for years. The NFL's greatest back always said that his toughest games were against Pittsburgh. He owned us but he always went home to an ice bath.
And the fans from both teams traveled to away games and managed an incredible love-hate relationship. We even hated Art Modell just as much as the Browns fans when he did his nasty deed in 1996 because he took those tremendous memories of the rivalry away with his betrayal of the fans and the city of Cleveland. Sorry that younger Browns fans have to be satisfied with a weak expansion team instead of the storied franchise that it once was.
Maybe some of the old feelings came to Baltimore along with Ozzie Newsome, once a great tight end for the Browns, now the Ravens GM and probably most responsible for building the Ravens into a competitive force for my Steelers to deal with twice a year.
When it comes to the sheer ferocity of the games, the Steelers-Ravens rivalry is incomparable and gives us oldtimers flashbacks to the games of the '50s, '60s & '70s. Considering that it has only taken thirteen years for the intense rivalry to form, I have no doubt that residual influence from the past has affected the present intensity.
Seriously, how does Jet Patriots only get 2.9%?? That isn't just the best rivalry in football, it's the best rivalry in sports. The two teams hate each other. They've stolen each other's coaches (first Parcells jumps to the Jets taking most of his coaching staff with him then, when Parcells retires his personally selected successor Bill Belichek resigns during his introductory press conference and goes to the Patriots). Spygate? It was the Jets and their then head coach (Mangini) who caught his old head coach (Belichek) and reported him to the league. Every time these two teams play the press reports are peppered with quotes from each team about how much they hate the other team.
How I long for a return of the best rivalry in the NFL: Browns - Steelers
As much as I dislike the Browns, I want to see the Browns return to respectabilty for their deserving and suffering fans. That rivalry was the best before Modell "pulled trhe rug out of Cleveland". Go Pittsburgh Go Cleveland
jz-2 makes the best case for the Packers-Bears rivalry. And HGH-GTH's post is hilarious. But what makes the rivalry so wonderful, in adddition to the points jz-2 made, is that it's all based on a good-natured, pretend hatred. I don't know about Bears fans, but as a lifelong Packer fan (I'm 59) I don't recall ever hearing much genuine animosity towards the Bears at all. In fact, most Packer fans I know, including my mother, are secret Bears fans; if the Packers are out of the playoffs, most Packer fans will root for the Bears, myself included.
elpasogabacho- I'm the same way... if the Bears are out...I'll pull for Pack...it breaks my heart, but I do it!
HGH-GTH: About that failed marriage...I feel your pain. I've been married to a Cowboy fan here in El Paso for 17 miserable years now. I like the town though. Good-luck to you guys this year.
I'm a Steeler fan but how I miss the days when the Browns could come in to town and turn our season on it's head. I love to hate the Browns but lately I just feel sorry for what the Browns are (like our Pirates) and what our two towns are missing.
I don't know what is wrong with the Browns but I would like nothing better than have them start kicking butt again. Maybe the Mighty Quinn can help and they'll all be singing the Brady Bunch theme in the DogPound! Then I can hate those dirty rotten %$#^#@*%$ Browns again!
Go Browns (I can't believe I said that!)
As a Cowboy fan, we have no biggest rival. All the other teams in the division hate our guts, even more so than they hate each other.
The biggest rivalry all time is Bears-Packers.
But right now there is no game I would watch over a Ravens-Steelers bloodbath. It's like football, MMA and a monster truck rally rolled in one.
The Bears fans root for Packers fans if their out of it. The Packers fans root for Bears fans if their out of it. How the hell is this the best rivalry in football? If the Cowboys make the playoffs, Redskins fans will be screaming and cheering so hard against them, its like the Cowboys are playing the Skins, and vice versa. As a true Cowboy fan, you should know that. I smell a poser...
Titans-Ravens : Damn did you see that hit!!!!
No one else has yet to make a strong case with facts that would say the Redskins Cowboys are not the best rivalry. Cmon guys, at least try some research for your arguments. Best teams who play eachother like Ravens-Steelers is not an good argument just because its a blood bath. I will say again, the entire Washington DC area, Virginia, parts of the Carolinas (before the Panthers mind you) are die hard Skins fans and hate the Cowboys fans more than anything. It is the same in Dallas and all over Texas in reverse. And with a massive fan base (the largest 2 in professional football mind you) that happen to hate eachother and have hated eachother for 70 years, cmon, no question. Plus, as i said before, both teams actually WIN Super Bowls, 7 total, so almost every other argument is worthless... Now, again, I dare any of you so called true fans to come up with a real argument against my claim of Skins Cowboys best of all time.
to respond the question on the records Pittsburgh-Ravens....the record since it inception in 1996...is 17-10 in the steelers favor..at pittsburgh the recrods is 10-4; at Baltimore the record is 7-6...the Ravens beat the steelers twice in 2006 and once in 2007....thus no 5 game winning streak....
Any fan older than forty knows that the Ravens are the "real" Browns and that the "turnpike" rivalry between the Steelers and Browns was legendary. Jim Brown and the Steelers defenses pummelled each other for years. The NFL's greatest back always said that his toughest games were against Pittsburgh. He owned us but he always went home to an ice bath.
And the fans from both teams traveled to away games and managed an incredible love-hate relationship. We even hated Art Modell just as much as the Browns fans when he did his nasty deed in 1996 because he took those tremendous memories of the rivalry away with his betrayal of the fans and the city of Cleveland. Sorry that younger Browns fans have to be satisfied with a weak expansion team instead of the storied franchise that it once was.
Maybe some of the old feelings came to Baltimore along with Ozzie Newsome, once a great tight end for the Browns, now the Ravens GM and probably most responsible for building the Ravens into a competitive force for my Steelers to deal with twice a year.
When it comes to the sheer ferocity of the games, the Steelers-Ravens rivalry is incomparable and gives us oldtimers flashbacks to the games of the '50s, '60s & '70s. Considering that it has only taken thirteen years for the intense rivalry to form, I have no doubt that residual influence from the past has affected the present intensity.
Seriously, how does Jet Patriots only get 2.9%?? That isn't just the best rivalry in football, it's the best rivalry in sports. The two teams hate each other. They've stolen each other's coaches (first Parcells jumps to the Jets taking most of his coaching staff with him then, when Parcells retires his personally selected successor Bill Belichek resigns during his introductory press conference and goes to the Patriots). Spygate? It was the Jets and their then head coach (Mangini) who caught his old head coach (Belichek) and reported him to the league. Every time these two teams play the press reports are peppered with quotes from each team about how much they hate the other team.