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Selig says A-Rod has 'shamed the game'

Bud Selig says Alex Rodriguez has "shamed the game,'' though the baseball commissioner indicated no plans to punish the three-time AL MVP.

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{"commentId":5334953,"authorDomain":"mjmaher"}

SERIOUSLY!!! "Shamed the Game"....This clown has been in charge for the Steroid-Era, if A-Rod has shamed the game what has Selig done to it?

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Reply#1 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:14 PM EST
{"commentId":5338077,"authorDomain":"csaw6988"}

My thoughts exactly! I wondered who shamed the game more Selig or the players on steroids?

Selig trying to make the All-Star game something that it isn't. It is a fun game played in the middle of the season. Just make the team with the best record overall the home team. It works for the other sports.

Make a stand on steroids and write a policy. Be a leader. Either accept the fallout if some of the big stars were/are on steroids or resign as commissioner. Baseball will adjust when the AAA players get their chance to show their stuff.

Fans want a game that is interesting. Blow outs aren't interesting either. I realize that not everyone like to watch a 1-0 game. Offense is played up in all sports. But not at the expense of people's health!

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#1.1 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:16 PM EST
{"commentId":5338083,"authorDomain":"sig229"}

You are ABSOULTELY RIGHT!! This Milwaukee bimbo has been nothing but BAD for the game of baseball. Hey Bud why don't you just call it a tie and go back to sleep!

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#1.2 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:17 PM EST
{"commentId":5338354,"authorDomain":"jpj1"}

What makes it worse is that clown Selig gets (not earns) $17 million a year for being the comissioner. Bud Selig is a class A fool.

In junior high school football, I knew what a steroid user looked like. I guarantee that tool won't give back any of the money during that period or dedicate any of it to prevention programs. Everytime he opens his mouth I want to punch him in his face. Baseball needs a REAL commissioner.

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    #1.3 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:27 PM EST
    {"commentId":5338702,"authorDomain":"mp59-1"}

    Ditto

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      #1.4 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:41 PM EST
      {"commentId":5339956,"authorDomain":"dpgiii"}

      The game has fallen so low that it demands the players of the game be more than players. What hypocrites!

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        #1.5 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:44 PM EST
        {"commentId":5340137,"authorDomain":"dale5195"}

        Selig should resign Apology to the baseball world. He didn't cause the problem but he lead the way to hiding it. Only after it couldn't be hidden did he step up. But he stepped up because he had no other choice at that point. Actually a lot of what I just said is true about AROD. Both men could have admitted a lot of what they knew and didn't and when they were caught then they fessed up. Big deal. AROD simply asked some smart people who said " hey look at Pettitte and compare what he went through to what Clemens is still going through, who made the right call?"

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          #1.6 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:52 PM EST
          {"commentId":5343108,"authorDomain":"jman2ndcorps"}

          Selig and baseball shamed themselves. Little League had a steroids policy before Major League Baseball...

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            #1.7 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:24 PM EST
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            {"commentId":5335383,"authorDomain":"spr1"}

            The players already have their Rep. How many babysitters do they need?

            YES, he--and the others--shamed the game.

            They're not children, despite acting like it.

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              Reply#2 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:33 PM EST
              {"commentId":5335528,"authorDomain":"bh0673"}

              Come on Bud if we the fans knew there was something going on there is no way you will ever convince anyone that you had no idea and if you didn't then you should step down for being incompetant.

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                Reply#3 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:39 PM EST
                {"commentId":5335709,"authorDomain":"tellis-2"}

                Exactly, but lets take the discussion to its logical conclusion, if one player gets any pumishment, all players must get punished, all teams must give up playoff and championships and revenue and if the focus (which now is on the offensive side of the game) doesnt include pitching and all Cy Youngs, Strikeout and other records, write the entire Era off and the "Juiced against the Juiced " and let all records stay in place, its all or nothing, not a Witch Hunt for those that the public or media dont like for whatever reason. Fair is Fair and includes everyone and all records involved!

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                  #3.1 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:48 PM EST
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                  {"commentId":5335605,"authorDomain":"kennyelson"}

                  Selig is covering his ass!! Probably knew what was going on all along. To them it was good for baseball by bringing in more more money. TILL!!! They all got caught!! So all those big record don't mean $%&%$ cause of the juice. The Babe is STILL the best Bonds is crap. The Babe did it on beer and hot dogs!! Now there was a baseball player! How many do you think could do what he did on the beer and hotdogs? How many more home runs could the Babe hit had he taken better care of himself? Even Mantle tried to catch the Babe but couldn't. He did with the beer but not the homers! Still he did damn well.

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                    Reply#4 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:43 PM EST
                    {"commentId":5335858,"authorDomain":"tellis-2"}

                    How stupid are you, the Babe didnt bat against "Juiced up Cy Young winners, all Awards (not just the Offensive) including Defensive and Pitching must be included, all Team Playoff games and $$$ must be forfeited and all Championships must be re-assigned if the Team had a player on the Team who contributing in any way, it's all or nothing, not just the HR argument, thats just a narrow minded Bigots view of the Issues and has no place in any discussio, but since Bonds isnt well liked for all the reasons including he was a great Ballplayer and not Media Darling, he gets the brunt until A-Fraud surfaced this week! Go after all of them or just leave it alone and write it off to a lesson learned, no matter what you asterisk in the book, it wont be right and wont include everyone who was a part!

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                    #4.1 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:54 PM EST
                    {"commentId":5342810,"authorDomain":"kennyelson"}

                    Personnally it would be better if everyone in pro baseball had to take the juice in order to be on the team. Therefore EVERYONE would be on equal ground. There would be no more me me me!! Or at least it would be earned. Everyone juiced up but still someone will still be the best. So be the best juiced player out of all of them.

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                      #4.2 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:08 PM EST
                      {"commentId":5344700,"authorDomain":"kennyelson"}

                      Also , not all of the pichers were juiced. so they got a lot of homers off non juiced pitchers.

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                        #4.3 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:52 PM EST
                        {"commentId":5344943,"authorDomain":"gregsnorman"}

                        Selig is an Idiot. I don't respect how he has handled MLB. I feel that If Pete Rose is kicked out baseball then kick rodriguez out along with all the other juicers. No one would dare bet on baseball because they know there is a hard line drawn. pete's a poster child for that. Even though most people agree he was a great ball player and should be forgiven. I would hard line the steroids because how should you view stats if a player is steroidal. and don't say it doesn't matter to how they play because if that were true they wouldn't take it to begin with. Kick them all out and it sends a message to our kids and up and coming sluggers " DON"T DO IT."

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                          #4.4 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:09 PM EST
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                          {"commentId":5335679,"authorDomain":"krock7627"}

                          Without steroids they would have to rename the sport to snoozeball

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                            Reply#5 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:46 PM EST
                            {"commentId":5345573,"authorDomain":"tjhallusaf"}
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                            {"commentId":5335856,"authorDomain":"michaelmurphync"}

                            if anyone knows about bringing shame to something they are involved in, bud's the guy. 

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                              Reply#6 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:54 PM EST
                              {"commentId":5335939,"authorDomain":"phil-25"}

                              If "Tough Bud" really wants to get serious about cleaning up baseball, he would ban first offenders for a season and second offenders for life. Let's restore some integrity to the game. Let's hope "Tough Bud" can finally get it right. (But, I am not betting on him.)

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                                Reply#7 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:57 PM EST
                                {"commentId":5336051,"authorDomain":"sedjreck"}

                                Bud Selig should be replaced. If he seriously wants to blame anyone then he needs to look in the mirror. But Bud wont do that, instead he wishes to point that immoral finger at others. Mom always says the one who points the finger is the guilty one.

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                                Reply#8 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:02 PM EST
                                {"commentId":5336105,"authorDomain":"abacu"}

                                Easiest way to solve this - any team with a player that tests positive from HERE ON OUT for any performance enhancing drug should have to forefit going to the postseason for that season. Punish the whole team for one players misdeeds and you will see everyone clean up their act if they want to make a life out of being paid to play ball.

                                No pass, no play!

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                                  Reply#9 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:05 PM EST
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                                  {"commentId":5336381,"authorDomain":"professorg75"}

                                  Nice to see I'm not alone in my feelings. Selig has shamed the game of baseball every day since he took the office of Commissioner. I don't want to hear anything from him other than a resignation speech. Until then kick rocks. Putz.

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                                  Reply#10 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:15 PM EST
                                  {"commentId":5336596,"authorDomain":"raymond-bruss"}

                                  I can't believe the commissioner said that! If any one has shamed the game it is the commissioner himself and his fellow owners who new their players where taking performance enhancing drug, but did nothing about it. They were and still are more interested in making a profit than keeping the greatest game on earth clean. The Commish needs to stick his head back in under the sand!

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                                  Reply#11 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:23 PM EST
                                  {"commentId":5336835,"authorDomain":"evr"}

                                  I suppose it was in the "don't ask, don't tell" era. A-Rod's legacy is now in the future.

                                  Now Commissioner, about your new contract providing a $3.5 million raise in salary to $17.5 million. Don't you think that's just a bit too much. We're all choking on the cost of tickets, beer and dogs.

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                                    Reply#12 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:32 PM EST
                                    {"commentId":5336843,"authorDomain":"csonka714"}

                                    Yeah, him and about two hundred other players, WAKE UP!!!!!

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                                      Reply#13 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:33 PM EST
                                      {"commentId":5336928,"authorDomain":"jorggidelaney"}

                                      OMG, what professional player, any sports, hasn't put on the shame??? None! they get all this money to "PLAY" and everytime they act up they get a pinch on the arm and a "shh" don't do it again. This type of behavior should have been nipped in the bud at the beginning. Now it is so prevelant it's almost acceptable.

                                      Why don't you look back to the "ancients". I bet some of those "Hall of Famers" have a ghost in their closet. The Hall of Fame in any sports should be named 'THE HALL OF SHAME" beginning with the ones in charge. Yuck you are all miserable over paid, yes even the commissioner, jocks and we know what jocks are.

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                                        Reply#14 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:36 PM EST
                                        {"commentId":5336975,"authorDomain":"dharper-3"}

                                        The game was already shamed. 1994, I watched the last game before the strike. The Braves vs. The Reds. Great game, being a Braves fan watching it from behind home plate in Cincinatti. That was the last game I've watched.

                                        The players want money. It's not a game, anymore. Steroids or not. I won't pad their pockets anymore, and the whole "A-Rod" deal. Who cares, anymore? Who actually thought these players would be legit and play by the rules, anyway? Not me.

                                        Baseball is a money making franchise, not a game or a sport.

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                                          Reply#15 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:38 PM EST
                                          {"commentId":5337005,"authorDomain":"ahovivian"}

                                          Selig is an idiot who makes an even more idiotic statement! A-Rod has not shamed the game, that was done by the very first person to be caught using steroids/drugs. A-Rod just happens to be another in a long list who has added to it. This has been going on for a very long time and Selig and baseball stuck their heads in the sand. I was watching a rerun of game 1 of the 1981 world series(Dodgers vs A's). Scully and Garrigiola were talking about steroids and Canseco, the size of his arms. You look at a skinny kid named Mcguire in that series and then look at him when he broke th HR record. Yeah steroids was being used longer than baseball cares to admit.

                                          Now lets take a look at another situation. Pete Rose is banned for life from baseball for betting on games after he was a player and while a manager. I doubt seriously that his betting had anything to do with outcomes because there was no proof of that. Baseball needs to justify keeping Rose out of baseball and the Hall of Fame and yet they continue to give these players chances after chances after chances. Classic examples are Darryl Strawberry and Steve Howe.

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                                          Reply#16 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:39 PM EST
                                          {"commentId":5337243,"authorDomain":"jrw53022"}

                                          You sat on Your Hands when McGuire and Sosa were playing Juice Ball in St.Louis and Chicago. You could of ended this Years ago, but remained silent.

                                          Because they were putting Fans in the Stands, plain and simple. You were one of the three blinde Mice. Hear Now Evil (Owners), See No Evil (Commishner), Speak No Evil (Player).

                                          You share some of the blame for this going on as long as it did.

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                                          Reply#17 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:47 PM EST
                                          {"commentId":5337273,"authorDomain":"saintrita"}

                                          Snooze Ball? Perhaps. Maybe they all should take steroids. Man what a ballgame that would be. Of course, the players would have pretty short careers because of the physical damage steroids would cause. But that is their problem. Right?

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                                            Reply#18 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:48 PM EST
                                            {"commentId":5337310,"authorDomain":"gatch21"}

                                            Selig needs to look in the mirror. What a F#$%ing hypocrite

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                                            Reply#19 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:50 PM EST
                                            {"commentId":5337413,"authorDomain":"bhovey7"}

                                            Bud Selig is the one who shamed the game by not acting sooner. Illegal drugs have been in baseball for decades and he knew about it. Perhaps, the govt. should go after him for perjury, but too hard to prove. He has forever scarred baseball by his complete incompetence. I wish he would retire for the good of the game. The govt should rescind the anti-trust exemption baseball enjoys until Bud steps down. How fast would the owners get rid of Bud then? He will undoubtedly go down in history as the worst commissioner ever after having presided over the Steroids Era.

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                                            Reply#20 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:53 PM EST
                                            {"commentId":5337729,"authorDomain":"oskarpru"}

                                            A-Rod shamed the game?  OK, I'll accept that. 

                                            But what about Selig?  When are some of baseball's administrators going to take a hit?  Selig was in charge during the steroid era.  He didn't know what was going on?  If he did, shame on him.  And if he didn't, he's incompetent.  He, as much as anyone, is to blame. 

                                            Selig should resign, or he should be fired.  Enough is ENOUGH.

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                                            Reply#21 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:03 PM EST
                                            {"commentId":5337754,"authorDomain":"ken-1947"}
                                            ken from illinoisDeleted
                                            {"commentId":5337771,"authorDomain":"hp601aa"}

                                            WHO CARES!!! It was not against the rules when these guys did it. So give it a rest. Congress needs to stop wasting TAX payer dollars for frivolous crap like this. Our economy is in the crapper and these guys set on capital hill wasting time and money. IT WAS NOT ILLEGAL WHEN THEY DID IT.

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                                              Reply#23 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:05 PM EST
                                              {"commentId":5338002,"authorDomain":"scm80005"}

                                              Bud Selig should resign immediately. Incompetence of these staggering proportions can not be tolerated in the great game of baseball.

                                              Selig presided over and turned a blind eye to the Steroids Era as a$$es filled seats and revenue poured into the coffers of the owners.

                                              And how can he consider punishing Rodriguez? Just becuase the guy had his name leaked by amoral people with access to the supposedly confidential list? If you punish him, you have to reveal and punish the other 103 guys on that list. And punish the person or people who leaked his name.

                                              I do not condone PED use in any way shape or form, however the players had tacit approval to use them prior to the new drug testing policy from Selig and the other owners, don't forget he 'gave up' his interest in the Brewers to accend to his Commissionership, and the MLBPA by saying "you guys can't use this stuff, however we won't test you for it or punish you for it. we can trust you can't we?" And then dangle multi-million dollar deals in front of them. And us, the fans, we cheered on these guys as they were smashing homers for us and breaking all kinds of records.

                                              All are at fault, no it is time to just get over ourselves and move on.

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                                              Reply#24 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:13 PM EST
                                              {"commentId":5338039,"authorDomain":"jbelcher61"}

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                                              Reply#25 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:15 PM EST
                                              {"commentId":5338376,"authorDomain":"csaw6988"}

                                              That is a good point Jerry. To single out A-Rod is so pious. What about the other people. They also deserve the same thing. But the bottom line is the leadership who allowed the "Culture of Steroids" to exist in the first place --- oh yeah -- the Commisioner, who had his head in the sand trying to get the fans back in the seats.

                                              Cal Ripken got some back in, but that home run race between McGwire and Sosa certainly got everyone pumped up again about baseball. It got Barry jealous enough to take risks and A-Rod set on a path to become the best there ever was.

                                              Selig should have stopped it right after the reported spotted the little blue bottle in McGwire's locker back in 98. But an immediate ban in. The Baseball Labor Union would go along for the players' health as it did later on. There was only the question of what give and take to put on the table. But it was obvious it was needed. The control wasn't done and look at what happened. Careers ruined that shouldn't have been. Reputations tarnished by greed.

                                              Because he didn't step in, Selig should step down right now. Get an unbiased Commisioner in there right away to clean up baseball and put some trust back in the game. Make it so that teenagers don't have to put their future at risk to make the teams to get their chance to play.

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                                                #25.1 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:28 PM EST
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                                                {"commentId":5338117,"authorDomain":"cbear"}

                                                Steroid tainted baseball hurts everyone - the fact that some ball games were won or lost because certain players were on steriods is fraud.  Team profitability, division, penant and World Series wins may have been affected by this disgrace to the game.  I say if A-roid used kick his a$$ out of baseball regardless of the timeframe, and make it clear there is no tolerance for chemical use in the game.  Furthermore, if A-roid lied at any time about this use, it is again fraud and he should be punished and forever banned from any tributes given the best players - no hall of fame for you A-roid EVER!

                                                Baseball is America's sport.  As we attempt to clean up American business and government let's do the same with professional sports.  Baseball needs to be a clean game, and if Selig is not the right guy to do it, kick his fanny out as well.

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                                                Reply#26 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:18 PM EST
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